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Amanda sits down with Bill Cohan, bestselling author, financial journalist, and former investment banker, for a conversation on the rise of Apollo Global Management, the evolution of private credit, and the forces reshaping modern finance. Drawing from his latest book, Money to Burn, Bill explores Apollo's origins following the collapse of Drexel Burnham Lambert, the leadership of Leon Black, Marc Rowan, and Josh Harris, and how the firm's expansion into credit and retirement services transformed one of the world's largest alternative asset managers.

Together, they discuss the growth of private credit, the opportunities and risks associated with insurance-based investment strategies, and the leadership decisions that shaped Apollo's trajectory. The conversation also examines Bill's reporting on Leon Black and Jeffrey Epstein, the importance of investigative journalism, and Bill's own journey from investment banking back to his first passion—writing. A thoughtful discussion on Wall Street, leadership, journalism, and the future of modern finance.

Bill Cohan

Bill Cohan is a bestselling author, financial journalist and former investment banker. His books on Wall Street include Money to Burn, which traces the rise of Apollo Global Management, and his reporting covers private equity, private credit and the people shaping modern finance.

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